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ISASI 2021 Technical Program                             9:20–9:40

                                                                  Annual Airbus Seminars: Support to Investigation Boards
         (Note: Times listed are all Vancouver International Airport,
         Pacific daylight time)                                   Xavier Barriola
                                                                  9:40–10:00
         DAY 1                                                    A Pilot Perspective on Wing Tip Strikes: An Underestimated
                                                                  Safety Risk?
         Moderator: Barbara Dunn, ISASI Seminar Committee Chair   Bertrand de Courville
         5:30–5:40                                                10:00–10:15
         Opening Remarks                                          Q&A

         Frank Del Gandio, ISASI president, welcomed participants to   Moderator: Simon Lie
         the first virtual annual seminar.
                                                                  10:15–10:20
         5:40–6:00
                                                                  Exhibitor Presentation
         Keynote Address: Do Demands for Justice Threaten Safety Investi-
         gations?                                                 Sarah Ochs, Embry-Riddle Aeronautic University
         Kathy Fox, TSB of Canada chair, discussed the effect of con-  10:20–10:30
         ducting accident investigations in the environment of instant   Kapustin Scholarship Presentation
         information and the opposing goals of seeking causes or justice
         (see page 8)                                             Yifan Wang, Cranfield University
         6:00–6:20                                                10:30–11:30
         Big Data and Artificial Intelligence Applications’ Role in Mitigat-  Working Group Meetings (Virtual)
         ing Future 737 Max Scenarios
                                                                  Cabin Safety
         Lou Nemeth, CAE Chief Safety Officer
                                                                  Participants discussed cabin crewmembers’ interaction with
         6:20–6:40                                                disruptive passengers and the increasing number of physical
         The Reality of Safety Expectations                       assaults and abusive language. They also noted that passen-
                                                                  gers were still trying to take their carry-on luggage with them
         James Burin, Flight Safety Foundation Fellow
                                                                  during emergency evacuations. Jan Davies updated the work-
         6:40–7:00                                                ing group with current head injury research and statistics.
         The Challenges in Boeing 737 Max Investigation           Corporate Members
         Ray Nurcahyo                                             Participants examined “what do corporate members really
                                                                  get from ISASI membership?” They saw a need for an ISASI
         7:00–7:15
                                                                  marketing program and expressed interest in developing a
         Q&A                                                      5-year plan to strengthen and enhance the Society’s recog-
                                                                  nition among industry stakeholders. They also discussed the
         Moderator: Simon Lie
                                                                  need to update corporate members’ contact information.
         7:30–7:50
                                                                  Government Air Safety Investigators
         Investigating Surface Wind’s Contribution to Aircraft Accidents
                                                                  Participants discussed cockpit video recordings and the
         David Gleave, Chief Investigator, Aviation Safety Consultants,   ICAO AIGP7 meeting slated for May 2022. They also ex-
         UK, ISASI Airport Working Group Chair                    pressed the need to make plans for the working group.
         8:10–8:30                                                Human Factors
         Integrating Space Operations in Aviation Space Reporting  Participants examined the possibility of creating a human
                                                                  factors training seminar that could include “cross-culture
         Ruth Stilwell, Core Faculty Member, Public Administration
         Program, Norwich University, UK                          philosophy training,” i.e., examining what pilots do in the
                                                                  cockpit and how the captain leads the team. Also of interest
         8:30–8:45                                                was
         Q&A                                                        •  delineation of what criteria air safety investigators use to
                                                                     decide when a human factors expert should be brought
         Moderator: Stacey Jackson                                   into an investigation.
         9:00–9:20                                                  •  examining human bias among investigators—not just
         The Evolution of Aviation Disaster Family Assistance: Compas-  among pilots, controllers, and maintenance personnel.
         sionate Care in the 21st Century                           •  how to train nonhuman factors people without using
         Dennis Post                                                 human factors jargon that can confuse trainees.

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